The Realities of Moving Home After College with Patrick Kelly

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Welcome to Guy's Set, the guy's guide to what you should be talking about. I'm Josh, I'm 23 years old, and I'm here to find all the tips, advice, and recommendations for guys in their 20s. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (00:18.254)

Hi guys, welcome back to guys said the guys guide to what should be talked about and welcome to Tuesday's. This is huge. my God. How did I not start with that? Happy Tuesday. This is the new day that guys that will be on every week and I like this already better. I feel like I listen to my podcasts during the week and it helps the week go by faster if you're on your way to work. If you're at work, if you're

Cooking dinner if you're getting ready for bed whenever you're listening to this Tuesdays it is now so welcome to the new official date guys set Tuesdays and I have a really fun one for you today. It's kind of a new segment or section to the podcast which is conversations with guys in their 20s. So this is a I guess like a new part of like the interviews section but it's going to be conversations with guys in their 20s so.

I'm going to be having on a bunch of my friends and other guys in their twenties that I think would be really interesting to hear from and hear new perspectives from. And the reason I wanted to include this in the podcast as a new section is because my experience is only one experience of a guy in his twenties. I moved to the city right after college. I moved to New York City right after college. I got a job. I started about two months after and I have that.

story and that perspective but there are so many other stories and opinions and perspectives and realistic experiences of other guys in their 20s that I really want to highlight and if this is going to be the guys guide to being in your 20s and to what should be talked about then I think it's important to highlight and spotlight other guys experiences in their 20s as well as mine.

So the goal with this section is to have a lot of my friends on to talk about what they're going through and their experiencing as well as their advice and things they recommend for other guys in their twenties and kind of just create this like resource guide of a bunch of different 20 year old guys giving all of their advice so other guys can have a place to find that. I think it could be really cool and I'm really excited about this new section. So I was thinking about somebody, one of my friends who has a

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pretty different experience than me right now. Who moved home after school, went back to school for grad school and just kind of took a totally different route. And I wanted to highlight that and his experience because I think it's pretty opposite from what I'm going through right now. And I'm sure there's a ton of other guys out there also experiencing something very similar to him right now. So if that is you.

I hope this finds you and that you appreciate his advice and hearing from somebody going through a similar situation. So I wanted to bring my friend Pat to talk to you about moving back home after school, going back to school after school. He also happens to be a very big supporter of this whole thing. He loved the idea of guys set from the start when it was a blog started last year.

and has now become a podcast and he's the type of friend that is your biggest fan and I am so happy to have him on. So without further ado, please welcome Patrick Kelly to Gattas.

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Is it okay if I wear like a drinking shirt like this?

Yeah, it's great. Are you ready?

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Ma ma.

Hi cakes, welcome to Guy Set. fuck, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, hold on, starting over, starting over.

My name's Patrick.

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This is a professional interview. My name is Patrick Michael Kelly. Shit. Or you can call me Pat.

Working on that. Okay. Hi. Hi, Pat. Welcome to guys. Everybody. This is my friend Pat. and he is the first of, so this is like a new section of the podcast where I will be having friends on. and the point of doing this is to get a bunch of different perspectives from guys who are also in their twenties because I have my perspective as somebody who moved.

Thanks for having me, Josh.

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to a city right after college, started a job immediately, but that isn't the experience for everybody right out of college, and I want to get a comprehensive, I want a bunch of different experiences of guys in their 20s. When I first asked Pat if I accidentally call him Cakes, that's because his nickname is Cakes, where'd that even come from in the first place?

Patty cakes it was my rugby nickname because of course our other friend Pat he was my freshman year roommate so shout out to the other Pat the lesser Pat but you can't have two Pats on a rugby team even though we had four so three of them needed nicknames including me so okay

Shout out Pat.

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That's where I came from. If I accidentally call him cakes, that's why. But I wanted to have Pat on because he has a different experience than a lot of our other friends starting right after college. I'll let him explain that. But when I first asked him to be on, he said to me, why would you want to have me on? That's boring. And I said, no, that's the exact point. Why? Because it's real and it's honest. And that's people honestly want to hear, because there's there has to be

tons of other guys out there who also share the exact same experience that you have right now. So I'll let you talk because I've already talked a lot. I wanna start with, let's talk about your transition from college to after college and what that was like for you.

So I graduated Lehigh with a degree in accounting and I'm currently going for my CPA certification and you need 150 credits for that. But at Lehigh I was like 25 credits short so I had the option of just doing random classes at community college or getting an MBA and no bueno, just go for another degree if it's gonna cost the same amount of money. So I did...

my MBA at West Chester University, which was very convenient for me because my parents live only 15 minutes from the campus. Plus, it was mostly online, so I could study for my CPA and get my MBA all from my parents' basement. And it was very, very convenient for me. I am 23 years of age, yes.

And you're 23, yeah?

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Were you applying to Westchester or colleges or like after what are are the graduate schools? Yeah, graduate schools while you were in college.

Yeah, so it was beginning of senior year at Lehigh, undergraduate at Lehigh. was applying to graduate schools and MBAs are very lenient. It's, I wasn't going to apply to as many colleges as I did to get into college, obviously. So I only applied to about three that are close to home around the Philadelphia area. Really wanted Villanova, but

That was 100 % in person and it was more tedious of a program. While I also wanted to study for my CPA, so I wanted the program to be flexible with its schedule and Westchester turned out to be perfect. The faculty, everyone in the program was amazing. And yeah, that's how I.

So how long after we graduated did you start school at Westchester and start studying for the CPA?

So I had one more summer break than you guys. You all moved out and started your big boy jobs. I started studying for the CPA, I'll say like maybe two months after graduation. So what is that? Maybe let's say August it was. I think it was August. And my MBA program started early September. So.

Speaker 1 (08:43.616)

I had an earlier start on the CPA. The MBA program was just one year, so I finished this past graduating class. And this is my final summer before my big boy job in Philadelphia starts with a big four accounting firm.

And how did you find that job and was that also during college you figured that out?

Yeah, that was at Lehigh, campus recruiting. I actually landed the job, I think it was four years ago now. Really? So I got the internship first.

How did you get the internship?

So interviewing process through the campus recruiting, two levels of interviews, and I applied to three out of the big four. Only really wanted two, which were KPMG and PwC. And they were showing a lot of interest in me. And I landed on PwC because they were extremely supportive with my fifth year and my whole plan for the future.

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They like to look forward. Where are you going to be? Are you going to be a partner? So they were very supportive in that area.

Would you recommend for somebody else that's like applying or starting looking for jobs to use their campus recruiting or like? yeah

Campus recruiting, especially for accounting firms, are how you get an internship and then your internship turns into a full-time offer. So I was actually supposed to intern my summer after junior year, but since I was doing a fifth year, it was actually going to be after my senior year.

offered me an externship, which was just a leadership program that lasted two weeks over the summer, which I loved, PWC did. And I learned that through my campus recruiter. I was like, am I too early? Am I like getting the ball rolling way ahead of things? And she goes, no, no, it's better to be early than late because there are many other opportunities you don't know that are out there like this externship. So she

showed me a lot of different opportunities and paths that I could take. And there's a different campus recruiter for every firm. And also my accounting mentor, Adley, helped me a lot, my advisor. So take advantage of all the older, more knowledgeable people above you that want to help because they truly make a big difference.

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I think that's really good advice for anybody that's in that position. Did you do other sort of networking, like other sorts, other stuff? Wow, ask the question Josh. Did you do other sort of networking things or did you just rely on Lehigh's or your college's resources?

Honestly, mostly Lehigh's resources. A lot of networking events through clubs. So I was involved with a lot of extracurricular activities, including the accounting club, finance club, even though I wasn't a finance major, but still was interested in the topic. Just a bunch of other small things here and there that would randomly have a networking event with another club.

be conjoined, combined, whatever the word is together.

I like it. Yeah. mean, I think it's good advice for people to go to these networking events that their schools are hosting. Take advantage of resources at school. think that's something that people don't think about a lot when starting to network. feel like people jump right to LinkedIn or all those other sites that they don't think about what's actually in front of them right there. So I think that's better.

Actually, I'm really behind on my LinkedIn. I know I should be on top of everything, but my LinkedIn is a little dated. I haven't even posted for my undergraduate at Lehigh yet. yeah, that's a great base to start, but you have to do a little more than just searching on LinkedIn. You have to actually reach out, communicate with people, have coffee, have face-to-face.

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interactions with real people with real jobs, learn stuff.

Have you sent any messages like that to people to start networking and stuff?

So yeah, I stayed in touch with a lot of people from my internship because I'm going into the same field. So it's going to be like I'm working with the same people. It might be a different team, but I'll be working on the same floor as everyone that I worked with during my internship. They knew right away when I got my full-time offer, they reached out, said congrats. I reached out after I graduated graduate school and they

gave me a congratulations that reach out when you're in Philly, I'll treat you to a cup of coffee. like, know, cup of coffee, I'll take it, yeah.

It's pretty nice. it. How do you recommend staying in touch with those people? are you sending them messages every once in a while, giving them an update on your life or what should people do?

Speaker 1 (14:17.038)

But that's where I think LinkedIn is the big key, because obviously you might not have everyone's number, emails can get lost, but LinkedIn, you can always find them, people check it regularly, most people are kind on LinkedIn and they respond with actual helpful information and welcoming messages.

I like to

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Can you lift your mic for a second? I'm sorry, I'm hearing some fuzz.

outside.

That's fine, you're good. Okay, so can you talk about your like, kind of social transition from school to this new experience? sounds like, I mean, what's going on for you right now is very career oriented, which is really important and great, but how has that been for you socially? Has it been okay, or yeah, talk about it.

I mean, definitely a lot less of a social life than I had at Lehigh. Not gonna complain about it all that much because it is for sure a wake-up call going from college, which is a lot of fun and games. Of course you're working hard too, but...

And then after you graduate, it's like a reality sets in. You kind of get a little smack in the face, wake up, you got to go to work. Nine to five, come on, let's go. But I've had a relatively easy transition because my parents are very supportive of me. Thank you to them, and dad, for letting me stay in your basement this year. But yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (16:05.288)

I have been very, what's the word, fortunate. I've been fortunate because a lot of handful of my high school friends actually are still living at home. So if I do want to go out on the occasional weekend, I know who to reach out to or most likely they'll reach out to me because they're more degenerates than I am. But if I ever need someone to go bowling with, watch a movie, play around a golf or just simply go on a walk.

I have people that I can reach out to.

How has the transition been for them as well? Do you feel that they're in a similar boat or have some of them struggled more or less?

Some of them, they've been really well. mean, there's been a few that miss the college social life, of course, because that's a lot of fun, but they're all working jobs right now. There was one other of my friends who just graduated graduate school. He did a fifth year for baseball, so he kind of had a different story. He was still at school doing the college athlete grind for another year.

but it's been relatively easy. It's just kind of like, you have to realize that college is a special place where obviously you work hard, you can play hard, but sometimes you have to work harder than you play. And that definitely is the case outside of college. You have to work much harder than you can go out and have fun. But yeah, every now and then there'll be a...

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time for you to let loose and lose control.

No, I like what you said a lot. think it's very true about the sort of wake up call from college to after college. And I think some people struggle with the transition more than others. I'm curious to how other people feel. So if other people feel differently, I want to hear some responses to that.

I say my social life has definitely gone down a whole lot from college, but I tell you my mom would 100 % disagree. mean, long day of studying, I study all day. I act as if that's my job because I want to get that done before I actually start my job. Because that'll give me huge advantage.

How so?

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Every now and then, if I finish a long day of studying, if I crack a beer at the end of the day, I might get a little bit of a side eye from the mother, but hey, sometimes you got to sweep that under the rug.

No, but that's definitely what comes with living at home. I'm doing the same thing here and I'm living on my own and there's not on own with roommates. So there's obviously less judgment. But I do think the transition has been, it's very different for each person. Like going from classes at 11 a.m. and maybe like a four p.m. where you can just like nap in the middle of the day or wake up really late to having to start your day at.

what 830 and or no getting up at like 730 office by 839. It's like it's a very different lifestyle.

That's actually been a big struggle for me. Right after graduating, I was sleeping in so much, more than I'd like to admit. sometimes, some days throughout the week, I still find myself sleeping in.

It's important to, especially for myself this year, this has kind of been like my last transition year until I start working in the city. So I'll have a set schedule where I have to be in the office on time. So this is kind of like my practice for that. So I've been trying to be more strict with myself. When I set alarm, maybe only hit the snooze button once. And after that, well, then I got to get up out of bed and not just wake up and be on my phone for an hour.

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Get out of bed, hop in the shower, go for a walk, go for a run, like get motivated for your day.

I think that's a really great tip. I was just about to ask you what types of things you do to set your schedule and if there's anything else, add in there. I think hitting this news button once or making an effort to only do it once and get up and get out and go for a walk is a super important tip. Is there anything else you do in your day to try and stay regimented?

Yeah, so I actually have two alarms set on my phone. One is the normal alarm sound that plays in my nightmares from Apple. And then the second one, I bought one of my favorite songs as a ringtone for my alarm. They reminisce over you. It's from NBA 2K Street PS4. Great game. Flashback.

Sometimes when I hit snooze on like the same alarm and I fall back asleep and I wake up I don't realize actually how many times I hit the snooze button But when I hear the song playing on my second alarm, then I know okay. This is my last warning I have to get out bed plus

That's a really good tip. Changing this out.

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Yeah, well, I actually like the song a little less now because it means getting out of bed. But I mean, it does still motivate me. Also throughout the day, studying all day behind a desk, just staring at a computer that goes for jobs, too. I am fortunate where I'm actually not confined to an office so I can go outside and walk.

go for a bike ride, I can walk my dog, like I can do lots of other things that will keep me motivated throughout the day. And I like to set awards for myself at night. Like what am I gonna do tonight? Like why am I studying all day? What am I studying to? So it's either I'll be going out with my friends, I'm a big movie guy.

Explain that.

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So maybe in the morning I pick out a movie from my watch list that I haven't been able to watch and I'm like, all right, tonight's the night, I'm gonna watch it. So I study all day and I'm like, why am I doing this? yeah, I get to reward myself at night, maybe I'll drink a beer and watch this great movie.

love that. used to do that with homework and I should do that again with work and presentations and stuff just to be like, when I finally get this done, it's a really good procrastination tool. Instead of pushing something off again and again, being like, all right, because I did this, I'll reward myself with going to get something. I love that. That's really good. What is your plan for next? Are you gonna move out? Are you gonna stay for a while? What are you gonna do?

So I plan on moving out with a fellow friend of ours to Philadelphia, working at PWC, one of the big four accounting firms. My parents on the other hand, want me to mooch off them for as long as I can so I can, instead of rent, buy a place. I have no interest in doing that. God bless them, I love them.

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I'm very thankful to have these wonderful parents in my life and for giving me many options for what I want to do and I love them to death but I also can't stand them at some times.

100%. I commend you for doing this.

In the nicest way possible. I can't stand them. Like...

I would be the exact same way. it's the, it's, at home after college is, has to be a difficult transition. You've said it very nicely and that it's been easy and like, but I'm sure there are a lot of things that come with it that make it really hard and like.

It was really hard going to college, feeling all this independence, freedom, actually having to take care of myself, and then after graduating, coming back home and then still having a lot of freedom and independence, but like...

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my mom still cooks for me. try to do my laundry, but my mom takes it out of my room whenever she can. And she does. I'm like, mom, let me do it. Like, I want to take care of myself. I want to be independent from them. And yeah, I want to start my own life.

Yeah, and I'm sure it's like a hard tradition for both parents and the kid because they want to be there to help provide because you're still there. They're not just going to push you to decide to forget about you, but you also want to be on your own. So it's a very interesting spot that you're in. And I'm sure there's a ton of people that are in your similar position that are going to benefit from hearing you talk about this.

just knowing that there's somebody else that is also in this position. I think it's cool.

Well I hope people can benefit from it.

They will. So are you looking forward to the job? you looking forward to we kind of we kind of touched on this, but what like what are you looking forward to getting out of home and?

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I mean, obviously there's positives and negatives. I'm excited to be on my own, have a real paycheck, real money in the bank. I am excited to work, start working, but also I hear all the horror stories from other starting accountants, first busy season, second busy season. It can get a lot and I'm not too particularly excited for that, but

I mean, I'm excited to learn and that's going to be a big opportunity to learn to grow my knowledge of the field, which I hope to be my life for the next however many years till I retire. But yeah, I am excited. I'm excited to expand my network, to meet new people, make new friends.

I think that's a lot of also where LinkedIn comes in because yeah, like once you meet all these people then you'll connect with them and Start really building that network there. So I think that's yeah, bringing that kind of full circle there

Exactly.

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Yeah, well was just gonna say I hope PWC has a bowling league because I will kick anyone's ass. That's step self-torturing. But yeah.

I want to ask you how like dating life has been I know it's got to be a lot harder than being in a city where you can just like ask somebody to grab drinks quickly, but like yeah, has that been anything for you or yeah?

non-existent. It's just not there. You can't go to a bar and say, do you want to come back to my parents place? That just doesn't flow as well. I'm spending this time right now focusing on myself, investing in myself for my future career and dating. Dating's for the future. When I move to the city, I plan to explore that pond a little bit.

get myself out there and meet new people. But yeah, right now, not so much.

I think, mean, obviously it would be very hard to date somebody while at home. mean, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

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Plus, it's kind of like a joke when you're studying for the CPA, the instructors that are on the program, they tell you, you cannot be dating someone right now. Do they? Yeah, they literally say that. They say, you have a date this Saturday night? No, you don't. You have a date with your flashcards. That's what you got to do this Saturday night. Like, okay, okay, Jesus, okay.

I yeah, I feel like the combination of being home and studying for a big test when you're- It's a lot, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I think what you said was true and will resonate with people that are in a similar position that like, that there will be a time for that right now is not that time.

Yeah, I mean, there are like, I every now and then I'll get a spurt of not regret, but like, oh my gosh, all my other friends that are living in the city, they're going on dates, they're having all this stuff. I'm living at home. What am I doing? But I'm only 23. I've the rest of my life to date to find a woman and marry someone in the future. Like that's in the future right now.

invested myself and that'll pay off sooner than a girl will.

How do you keep yourself sane when you're stressed or anxious at home? I meant to ask you that before and I want to go back to that.

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Well, like I said, just getting away from your laptop, sitting behind a desk, just sitting all day, stand up. Like if you have a standing desk, like I know you do, take advantage of it. I love listening to podcasts. I go for a walk and instead of music, I listen to podcasts.

What are you listening to?

Like I said, I'm a big movie guy, so my favorite podcast is called Raiders of the Lost podcast, and it's two twin brothers who do movie talks, fun trivia, and then also Smartless. Smartless is an instant classic.

any other tips for somebody else in your position?

For losing some stress. Yeah. Um, if you don't You don't have a dog find a dog heading petting dogs can release a lot of I Have loved Being at home so I could walk my dog around the block every every time I finished a unit or whatever it is Just getting sun sunshine getting out there like oh my gosh

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And you've given a lot. You've given really good ones.

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It's true?

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You don't realize how much built up anxiety you have when you're sitting behind a computer until you step away from it. And then when you step away from it, you realize, like you take a deep breath, you realize how much sunshine can do.

No, it's so true. I work from home on Monday and Friday. So the first thing I try and do before I open my computer, I also like, this is a tip that I recommend for anybody. When I go to bed now, I set my phone to do not disturb. And then when I wake up, let's say I'm getting up at like, today I woke up at 7.30, I went to bed later than I wanted to, so I woke up later. The first thing I did was I put on my clothes, brush my teeth, whatever, got outside, went for a walk, put on music or a podcast.

And then like 10 minutes in, I'll put my phone off, not disturb and like read texts or see the notifications. And I think like starting my day, as you were just saying, like getting a walk in or getting outside and not being bombarded with texts literally as I'm in bed before I've even thought about the day or even like gotten my head straight on. And I think it's kind of important to do that. So I think, yeah, that I think that's a tip that I would give to anybody as well.

getting outside or like doing something like like for yourself before you start with notifications and work.

I agree with the do not disturb setting. I've this past year been taking advantage of Apple's time setting on certain apps, time restrictions. TikTok and Instagram have been taking up, well, when I started studying TikTok and Instagram and a lot of other social medias were taking up a lot of my study breaks. And I realized like I would have 30 minutes of a break and I'd just be on my phone.

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separate myself from my laptop screen and then just go directly to my phone. like, yeah. So I started setting time restrictions, 30 minutes a day. If I go over, then I can't go on it for the rest of the day. And that's just like another alert that will be like, yeah, you haven't been outside yet today. Maybe go for a walk. you haven't gone upstairs and seen your parents yet. Maybe go say hi to them.

another screen.

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Right. Exactly. I also have this time cube right here. If you're listening on audio, you won't see it, but I'll put it on Instagram. But it's it's like it was like 10 bucks from Amazon and it has like 15, 20, 30, 60. And you said it and I like I don't use it enough, but I like said it to like a time and then I'll take a break for that amount of time. And then when it goes off, I'll go back to what I was doing and get back focus. But I think it's important to take those breaks.

Little things.

Speaker 2 (33:09.994)

From your mental and like mindset so What do you wish was different from of your experience right now? And what do you want to keep from this lifestyle moving forward when you're living on your own?

Hmm, what do I wish was different? Honestly, I do wish I had a little more of a social life. Yeah, it's definitely restricted being at home, but I also love just having family around me all the time. That's a huge blessing. And I definitely want to keep that in my life as I move forward. even a...

Even if I move, even when I move away to Philadelphia, I'm going to be going back to visit many times. Maybe for a home cooked meal or whatever it may be. Maybe it's for my mom to do my laundry.

That was a lovely answer. It was very nice.

Also, also cooking. I love to cook and having a nice kitchen here, it's easy to cook. So that's one thing I'm worried about moving into the city. Not gonna have as many utilities as I have right now, but I'm gonna try to keep up my cooking skills and treat myself maybe twice a week to a nice meal.

Speaker 2 (34:35.138)

What do you cook and what do you recommend? What meals do you think would be easy for other guys to cook on their own?

I love cooking chicken because you can just make chicken in so many different ways. My favorite spread is pesto, so I put pesto on everything and I've made a butter pesto chicken that is now like in my recipe book for everyone. Burgers are always a great one. You can mix those up, mix and match, but what I really, really love to challenge myself with is different cuts of steak.

Okay?

Speaker 1 (35:10.23)

and cooking them to different temperatures. Yeah. And then also complementing the steak with a good side, whether it's potatoes, corn, asparagus, broccoli. I recently made a skirt steak with chimichurri. Made chimichurri for my first time ever and it was... All right. Magnificent.

Chef. Are you watching the bear?

I am watching it there. season two, episode four. love it. Freaking love it. Well, so I'm at the beach right now and I still have a summer job. I actually just worked this morning, but I worked at a restaurant. I'm working in the kitchen, short order cook.

love it how many episodes for two?

Speaker 2 (35:56.748)

Is it like the bear?

God, no. It's it's not as elegant as the bear. Like we're making breakfast sandwiches. I'll make a steak occasionally. At dinnertime, we have more of like a elegant menu with seafood and other stuff. But breakfast and lunch, it's mostly just short order stuff like easy. It's I wish it was more like the bear. But I do find myself saying yes, chef.

No chef all the Do you? Even when I'm not in the kitchen and it kind of annoys some people in my family.

Is that how everyone talks though in the kitchen?

Well, not everyone. Just you. Not everyone. Just me. No, but it is important to communicate in the kitchen. So when you're behind someone, you have to yell behind because you could have a hot plate. My boss, the head chef, chef at our restaurant, his name is Jeff. So I say, yes, Jeff. And it sounds like yes. So in my head, I'm making the connection, but I don't think anyone else there understands. But.

Speaker 2 (36:59.534)

Sounds like yes, chef.

Speaker 1 (37:07.928)

people, Jeff is trying to make everyone talk the same way, communication is key in the kitchen. But I wish it was more like the bear.

Why did you decide to get another job on top of studying and going to school and then already having a job next year? What was the reason for that?

Well,

money. Great answer.

Number one, I also needed to occupy myself with something other than studying because well I'm at the beach right now like I said and studying at the beach is so hard. There are so many distractions. Every weekend we have so much family down which is great. I love them, but also cuts into my studying time because of course I want to go to the beach with them or I want to go mini golfing with my cousins like... So having this

Speaker 1 (38:03.062)

Job is actually making me be more strict on myself. I work this morning, so I have to study this afternoon, maybe into past dinner. I can't take more breaks. And also money. It's my going out money for the summer, so I don't bury myself into a hole.

What is your advice for guys in college? You gave some earlier, but I wanted to hear if you have anything else to say to them. Or going into college or anything.

Speaker 1 (38:36.11)

I mean, we're only 23, so it's like, we're not fresh out of college, but we're still tender from the graduation. Yeah, wow. Cut that, cut that.

tender.

Speaker 2 (38:54.606)

What a fucking weird word.

So I, whatever, yeah, I guess we're still fresh from college.

Mm-hmm. No for sure, but I think we can still speak on it

Live like I'm gonna sound like an old person saying this but live in the moment like Sorry, just bang my desk live in the moment try to stay off your phone and just like look up and Realize that you're creating memories right now and in five ten years You're gonna look back and remember that particular moment that day that party that night So live in the moment. Don't try to get too caught up, of course

School can be stressful and it can be overwhelming, but it's a great privilege. It's a great learning experience. Take advantage of everything. Live in the moment.

Speaker 2 (39:44.63)

And what advice do you have for guys out of college?

Well, I'm still learning in that field of life, so I don't know if I can say much.

or tips or things that you've learned in your time. Doesn't have to be advised, but like, cause that word makes it sound too lofty and it's not.

Yeah, treat yourself. Treat yourself after a long, hard day or week or month, but don't treat yourself too often. You can be frugal. You can save a little more than you can for the future. Your future self will thank you. That's what I'm trying to teach myself right now, but something's just not clicking. yeah, treat yourself, but don't overdo it.

because you got a lot of life to live. You got a lot of life ahead of you. So plan accordingly.

Speaker 2 (40:37.72)

Okay, cause this was great. You've, this was, was this better than you thought it would be? I- Or Pat, shit.

It's okay at this point. I've accepted it and people listening to this podcast better accept it on cakes. So I I did I had a blast doing this I I hope people will find this helpful because I do I still think my life is boring right now, but that's just that's just how it is and in the future it won't be so

What are you going to say?

Speaker 2 (41:06.282)

Exactly. mean, I feel like a lot of our day to day like isn't very exciting. What you see, what you see on, everyone says this, what you see on social media for people like that, it's not what they're living every single day. And like, I think it's important to highlight that like, everybody's going through different things right now. There's a lot of different experiences happening. And you may think it's boring, but it's relatable. I thank you for coming on. I think it's really great.

I'm honored to be the first friend

Did I say why I wanted to have you on? you? I don't know. the reason was that you... So I started Guy Set as a blog in college and writing articles about it and you were one of the first people that really loved it and thought it was a really good...

Yeah, I still love it. I listen to every episode Check it blog. I bought Mother's Day gifts from your blog I've gotten so many praises from my parents because of you like

No, I like doing it and I think there is nothing like this right now and I'm happy to do it but you were one of the original supporters of it and someone that made me think it could actually be something so I wanted to have you on to highlight what you're going through or your experience right now and when you move we'll do another one about your experience there.

Speaker 1 (42:24.344)

Great. I'll always support you and Guy Sacks.

Speaker 2 (42:42.274)

and I'll be sure to talk about it. You guys want to hear something also like really super cool. You can also follow guyset on TikTok and Instagram at the guyset T H E G U I S E T. You can also check out the website guyset.com G U I S E T.com for so much more content on all these topics. shit, sorry. I think I forgot to say to leave this podcast five stars and our positive review. Thank you so much for listening and I will see you guys next Tuesday. Let's fucking go.