The Highs and Lows of Your 20s with Ryan Heaton and Marathons with Ryan Heaton

Josh Felgoise (00:00.206)
Welcome to Guy's Set, the guy's guide to what you should be talking about. I'm Josh, I'm 23 years old, and I'm here to find all the tips, advice, and recommendations for guys in their 20s. Let's get into it.

Josh Felgoise (00:18.062)
Hi guys, welcome back to Guy's Set, the guy's guide to what should be talked about. This week in New York City is the marathon on Sunday. So I wanted to have on my friend Ryan Heaton, who actually ran the marathon for the first time last year. So I wanted to talk about his decision to run it, his thought process throughout, his training, and so much more. He actually also ended up getting hurt quite quickly after and tore his ACL. So it's safe to say that he has had one of the most unique

first years after college. So I wanted to talk to him about his experience running the marathon, getting injured, starting at such a high and then going to kind of such a low. And we go into all of that. So I'm working on making my intro shorter because there's been a lot of feedback that they are too long. So I'll let you the rest of the story from him because there's not much more for me to say. Without further ado, please welcome my great friend Ryan Heaton to Geisse.

Josh Felgoise (01:19.022)
guy said. Thanks Josh. I'm excited to be here. Are you excited or are nervous? Probably a little bit of both. Okay, why do you look so nice compared to me? Well, you said look nice. I didn't say look nice. He's coming from work and I work from home on Mondays. You wore a t-shirt. I wore a t-shirt and he wore a suit. I work at a bank.

wear business casual to work every day. What is business casual? Can you define that for the audience? So it's a pretty loose term because I've seen people show up in suits when it's business casual and I've seen people show up in polos. What do you usually wear? Like what's a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday outfit? Like I'd say a suit without the jacket. Explain what you're wearing to the audience that's just listening on audio. I'm wearing a suit without the What are you wearing, Ryan? I'm wearing long pants and a long button down shirt.

No, like long sleeve. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No, you look nice. You look nice. Yeah, it's a professional fit. I could actually wear this to work and I could be fine. Yeah, I know. I'm a little bit jealous of that. Like any any day. We just paused for a second for Ryan to talk a bit louder. Yeah, I speak fairly lowly and I know anybody that listens to this knows that I talk loudly and it's okay. It's it's an imbalance in our friendship. I think that's why we're good friends. Yeah.

Soft spoken versus practically yelling. All right. Well, let's get into it. I wanted to interview Ryan this week specifically because the New York city marathon is on Sunday and you ran the marathon last year and this is your first public appearance since that marathon. that true? Yeah, prop probably. I took a little bit of a like I told him to project. Okay. I took a little bit of a,

social leave, I'd say for the past year and I think it's been, you know, all because of the recovery from the marathon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is this also Ryan also actually ended up getting injured, not from the marathon. Yeah, yeah. No, not from the marathon separately. I don't want to dissuade anyone from, you know, trying to run a marathon because it was a great thing. Right, right. But this is your first public appearance since that injury as well. So this is thank you for coming on here to be the first place that you talk about it. Thanks. I mean, I don't really make

Josh Felgoise (03:44.45)
public appearances anyway. This might be my first public appearance period. Appearance? Yeah, well, welcome. I'm thrilled to have you and thank you for being here on this podcast for the public appearance. Thanks. Well, OK. So first public interview. This is Ryan Heaton. Ryan is one of my best friends. But we will get into all of that stuff. But that's the reason I wanted to have it on this week was because Sunday is the marathon and you you ran it last year. So.

We'll get into that, but I want to first talk about this past weekend. So this past weekend was Halloween weekend. And what did you do, So on Friday, I actually attended a house party. Where was that party? It was in Josh's apartment. Where we're sitting currently right now. By Josh and his two roommates. And what did you think of the party? Did you have fun? Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good party. We got some Italian food beforehand. That was good.

And then wasn't too crowded. I'd say it was a good crowd, but like I could move. Yeah, I was, I was really worried about the crowd and I wanted to talk about that because I was going to talk about that separately if you weren't on here this week, but that's we're to do it now with you here. Really hot. was incredibly funny. So we're in a New York apartment right now and my two roommates, we were just talking about it. I was just talking about it with Reed who has been on here before that he and Jordan are both gonna have a problem when it gets to their wedding season.

and they have to pick people to be their groomsmen because they can't not invite anybody. Do you know what I mean? You can talk into them. Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's a tough balance. No, right, right, right, but like both of them invited everybody they've ever met in New York, which is great, which is amazing, but again, we're in a very small like New York apartment and you can only fit like, how many people do you think can actually fit in here? Like comfortably 20. And like 65 were invited.

And you know, like of that, like people bring friends. Don't like sniff into the microphone if you can avoid that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But of that, like people bring friends and friends, friends bring friends and people just show up and it's a whole thing. So I was very random people show random people show up and I was very anxious leading up to the party. I may come off as a like, like I don't like, I like hosting like my friends, but I don't like hosting like big things. It's a lot of cleanup. It's a lot of setup. And I just get very anxious about having a lot of people in my apartment.

Josh Felgoise (06:10.222)
But, and I genuinely thought the floor was gonna fall through and I asked Ryan the possibility that the floor would fall through and what did you say? I just said it was not zero, so. Right, and that to me made me spin, like actually spin because I was like, well, if there's even a 1 % possibility that the floor is gonna fall through, here's where my head went and we talked about this. I went to, the floor's gonna fall through onto the neighbors downstairs and then I'm gonna kill somebody under us and then go to prison and I was like. Sorry. It's okay, just like.

You had me waiting outside for like 10 minutes. Okay. I had my phone on do not disturb before the podcast because I really wanted to prepare and I didn't realize that I didn't let Ryan in, but sorry. That's on me. Is that you saying you have a cold because I made you wait outside? No, I'm just saying it was cold and now, you know, my wasn't wasn't before. All right. Well, fuck you. So

My head went to, I was gonna kill the people under me, go to prison, and I was like, but what about the podcast? You can't podcast from prison. That's the only thing I was thinking about, like genuinely. And the floor didn't fall through, it was all good, and there were a lot of people here, so I apartments can't floor people, but I am a very anxious person from that, and now it's over and I'm happy. What'd you do the rest of the weekend? Yeah, so Saturday got up, I actually had a crazy weekend, so it's gonna seem like I'm really social and do a lot. Okay.

This weekend was an anomaly. So I got up next morning, went to brunch with some friends and my girlfriend. then- a girlfriend. I do have a girlfriend. And then we went shopping and I bought a t-shirt from Uniqlo as a part of my second Saturday night outfit. Okay. And then we went back to the apartment, just like did nothing for the rest of the day.

Oh, we watched episode one of the Beckham mini series. What'd you think? Great. It was actually my second time. I was just saying, did you say this is the first time watching it? Because the whole weekend Ryan wanted to be David Beckham for Halloween. And everyone was like, yeah, but like no one's going to get that costume. Unless you're wearing like a soccer jersey or like a headband, like no one's going to get you're like all black fit. And you're like, I'm David Beckham. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was a big deal in the nineties and in the episode and episode one. it was David Beckham in a sarong.

Josh Felgoise (08:31.65)
during the World Cup in 1998. What's a sarong? Sarong? mean, have you been to like a pool party or a beach party? I literally have no idea what a sarong is until you just said beach party. Like what girls wear. Guys don't wear sarongs? No, that's why it was so like controversial when David Beckham wore it. Oh, but in that picture he's wearing a black shirt and black pants. And a sarong. Okay, well you can't really see the sarong, so I guess. Well, I'm happy you didn't wear that costume.

Did you? Well, I did Saturday night. Oh, how did it go over? Well, people got it. Was I the only David Beckham? No. Was I the only The Bear? No. Was I the only David Beckham in a sarong? Yes. It's really funny. Do people like the sarong? Do they know what a sarong was? I think it hit more in like amongst like girls. Just because, you know, they own them and wear them. I mean, I'm not generalizing all girls, but.

I've never seen a guy wear a sarong. Okay. But like I kind of rocked it. I'm proud of you. Yeah. Great. Sorry, I actually wasn't listening. I was reading the next question. Okay, that's okay. What was what you were saying? I'm sorry. I thought I looked good in the sarong. I'm sure you looked great. People told me I kind of looked like the guy from the original Karate Kid. Jaden Smith? No, the original, not the remake. Got He's like blonde.

And I kind of did look like him. And so I I got chef. I got karate, like master. But David Beckham was often not the first guest. Okay. What did, what did Quinn, your girlfriend wear? She was posh spice. Did people get the cost, the couple's costume? Well, yeah. When we showed the photo. Okay. All right. Well, as long you had the photo up and ready, that's good. Okay. So how the weekend, did you enjoy it overall? Yeah. Now I had a great time. Are you exhausted? Yeah.

I went to bed at like 8.30 last night. I loved it. feel kind of terrible. Yeah, now I want to go to bed at 8.30 tonight too. Yeah, I think we're talking to another friend about this today that like hangovers now last so long. Yeah, like any comment? No, and I hope it doesn't continue to last longer and longer. Agree. OK, so let's. The light fell. Hold on.

Josh Felgoise (10:56.334)
All right, we're back. The light fell. As I said, I'm working on the setup. Last time was all crotch shots. It was literally like I recorded the podcast at crotch level and our heads were cut off. If you have, you've seen the YouTuber follow on Instagram this time it's better, right? Like this looks good already. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a good angle. Okay. So we're improving. one thing at a time. okay. So let's get into the conversation here. I wanted to talk to you about the marathon, of course.

What, first of all, motivated you to want to run the marathon? Like, was that always something you wanted to do as a kid or what started that thought? Yeah, so I've honestly always hated running. And that'll make sense later, but... Right now it makes no sense. Yeah. So I always just thought people who did marathons were really cool and I was always impressed by it. Yeah. And then I saw some people that I knew do them during COVID and I was like,

You know, like I think I could do it. Yeah. And then my current roommate who was not my roommate at the time went to a different school. You know, one of my best friends from high school offered me a charity bib to the New York City Marathon. And he was like, he's like, we're going to get fat if we don't run and if we don't exercise, this will give us good motivation. And his dad had done it that year and he was like, you know, I want to compete in it.

we should kind of push each other. And I was like, yeah, that sounds like a great idea. And so I ran it by some friends. They all told me it was a terrible idea. And then I slept about like slept one night and then woke up the next morning. I was like, you know screw it. I'm going to do it. So at the time he offered you the bib, you had never, you hadn't been running, right? No, I probably hadn't run for like a year at that point.

So, okay, you said one other thing. You said you ran it by your friends and they said it was a terrible idea. Which friends and why did they say it was a bad idea? You. You were one of them. And you just kind of laughed. I didn't mean it. Now looking back, if I did laugh, that sounds like me. So I definitely did. I think it was just everyone was like, are gonna run the marathon? And I like, I don't think it's unrealistic. I my parents, they laughed.

Josh Felgoise (13:20.77)
But it's okay, but it's the same thing as like me saying I'm gonna start a podcast like until you're consistent about it and actually like prove that you're gonna do something. Everybody thinks that any idea is gonna be stupid or like isn't gonna actually happen or come to fruition. Yeah, no, I think that's a good way to look at it. Like that I just thought about that right now because I was like, all right, well, when I first said I was gonna start a podcast, everyone was like, okay, cool, like funny, like you're not gonna actually like make something like because I've done other like brands that have failed obviously. Thank you for now sympathizing with me based on your initial negative reaction.

showing everyone that you've changed. Well, I'm a better person now. But go ahead though. You said that people were laughing and thought you weren't being serious about it. Yeah. honestly, I like to prove people wrong too. So I think that was an added layer of like, know, screw this. They don't think I can do it. I think I can do it. I'm going to do it. So talk about the starting of the running. Yeah. That was really difficult.

I started running senior year with like a month and a half to go in school. And how was that? How was like training while at school? Yeah, I was in terrible shape. I was kind of the gym, but like for lifting, not running. And then actually Luke, I ran my first run with. What was your first run? It was either

I think it was two miles and we just kind of ran around campus and You meant like first run as in like literal like get on your feet. Yeah, like a half marathon or something. like the literal first time I like one step for mankind and I was like we're really running through campus Like think you're those guys now No, but I was just super self-conscious because I hadn't run for a year right and and he was actually training for a triathlon at the time

So first tip, find fit friends. Yeah, like find someone who pushes you. I think that's something great. Okay, yeah, I like that tip a lot. Go ahead, keep going. Sorry. That helped me to keep stopping you. and I just kind of periodically ran, I'd say like one to two times a week. Okay. And then, know, senior year, like things kind of got hectic at the end. Like we were partying a lot. You're so cool. We had a lot on our calendar in terms of, you know, like getting photos taken.

Josh Felgoise (15:38.414)
Like graduating. Yeah. Graduating, getting dinner with like professors, like saying, like it just wasn't really job. Like, yeah. Like it at that time was like eight months away and just wasn't a priority for me. Right. So talk about when you started taking it seriously, like what went into that actual training? Yeah. so I got like a plan. So it was, I Googled like how to run a marathon starting from.

like not being able to run. Okay. And there are couch to race run plans. yeah. Did you do that? Yeah. So I did that, but I used the one that my friend, my roommate's dad had used the year before. Okay. Which was a little bit advanced, but like I wasn't couched because I had been running with Luke and yeah. And I, you know, I was running like a little bit here and there before like the actual timeline started. So you were like right above couch. Yeah. I'd say I was right above couch. Like passive.

Super passive runner. Okay, and what did that training plan look like? Yeah, um, so it's like a very ramped up plan. So It's honestly different based on what your goal is. So My goal I did like an intermediate plan. So I was shooting for like Four and a half to four hours running which which is what per mile, you know, I can't do math. Yeah, it's like a 10-minute mile Okay. Yeah, that's I mean that's great for 26 months at 26. Yeah

Yeah, 26.2. That's great. So what did you end up doing? Yeah. We'll get into that. That's too far ahead. That's too far of a So what did, like, let's talk about maybe a month leading up to the run. What did that look like? You said it like ramped up as time went on. Yeah. Like leading up to like the marathon? Yeah, like the actual race. Yeah. So it's just, you're basically, what you're doing is you have maintenance runs. So runs that are basically just trying to keep you

at the same pace, you have runs. long is the maintenance run? It ramps up over time. So it starts at like two and then we'll go up to like 10 miles. fuck, okay. And then you have runs for speed. So your goal for that is just trying to run it as fast as you can. You have days just to hit core so that the rest of your body's kind of keeping up and staying. And that just helps you progress your overall running. And then you have distance runs. And so those are like.

Josh Felgoise (18:04.27)
Those are the long ones that kind of get people. So it's like three types of runs. Yeah. And I mean, that was just kind of the plan I used. Like I'm not a running expert. But you run a marathon. So like it's better than me. Yeah. Like better than most people. You know, I think I can talk about going from a couch to running a marathon. But that's why you're here. That's like, yeah. Well, other reasons to know for sure. But OK, so then talk about the like the night before. What were you feeling before the race? Yeah. You put yourself back in that headspace. I was.

pretty nervous. The day of was hot. was 75 degrees and sunny. What time was the race? When did you get up? So yeah, so I had to go to bed super early, but I was nervous and I had to get up. I got up at like 430. What time did you go to bed? I probably fell asleep around 11. Did you ever have like test anxiety in school or was that not like a thing for you? Not so much because like with the test I was like, you know, like if I get a bad grade, I get a bad grade. I can recover.

Okay. With this, you know, I was raising money for charity. And so people were donating to this charity, like kind of on my behalf. And so I was like, okay, there's a lot of people supporting me here. I had a lot of friends going to the race and I was like, if I don't finish, it's going to be really awkward. Like if I... So was that what was motivating you throughout? Yeah, like that was a significant motivating That it was going to be awkward if you didn't finish. It was like, all these people are going to be like, oh, how'd it go? Like all these people knew I was running it.

How's the marathon? How did it go? And if I was like, I didn't finish, like I couldn't finish. And you know, that happens for people and people get hurt and there's things you can't control, but that was really making me worried. So while you're in the run, like what else was pushing or motivating you like that? Or was it all like, I can't fuck up because I'm going to feel like I lost to these people? Yeah, I'd say there was like an internal drive. Like I was like,

Come on I can do this, you know and and I think a lot of confidence was built up throughout the training Because at that point I'd run 20 plus miles Three times. Okay, so, you know, it's five more and I've done right five So many times at that point and so it's a good way to look at it. Yeah, so what else? You talked about like that you built confidence throughout are you saying like just because you

Josh Felgoise (20:29.902)
like had the miles under your belt or because you built it up in your head, like mentally. Does that make sense? Yeah. So I would say two parts. you know, you kind of gain confidence over time just from like doing and learning and failing, but from achieving, like I would say that like really solidifies, you know, because yeah, because if you're like, can I do this? Well, I've already done it before. Like why can't I do it again? And then it's like, can I do this? I haven't done it before, but I've come.

pretty close. Yeah. So yeah. Has that carried with you after the marathon? I would say like larger achievements, you know, like the marathon I think was a testament of like the ability to like consistently stay with something and to like, you know, set out a goal, put like months of effort into it and like accomplish it. And I think that has kind of like improved my confidence but

Like, you know, I don't know if like my, you know, ability to public speak has, you know, increased like that confidence, but, like long-term goals and like big achievements. I'd say knowing that you can accomplish things like that. Yeah. You can set your mind to something and say like, okay, if I really want it badly enough, I can get that done. Yeah. Like it definitely helped there, but you know, it's not like a magical pill or anything. Right. But, like, I do think setting your mind to something and

proving to yourself and others that you can get it done does like kind of flip a switch in you a bit. Like the next time people doubt you for something like it does it's not going to matter to you as much. Yeah. And I mean, it's also tough just because like what you know, like the transition I went from like marathon to like immediately after getting hurt was like, right. Total buzzkill. You transitioned yourself. So let's talk about that. Okay. Because that it was like very quickly after and I do think like

your confidence may have stayed heightened had you not been injured. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, like, you know, because it's just kind of like any setback kind of dampens your confidence and like, yeah, it's a setback because like, speaking as your friend, I don't think I've ever told you this, but like seeing you run like that, I was the most proud I've ever been of you or of like, like it was just fucking insane that we met. met Ryan. What mile did you see? We see you first at like 10.

Josh Felgoise (22:53.166)
It was like 18. No, the first time. was 18. 18 was the first time? Yeah. Okay. Hi Jordan. What up guys? Yo! My roommate just walked in. What's up? I was getting emotional about Ryan and the marathon. was like outside and was like fucking. You had to walk in at some point. groceries? Good groceries? Yeah. Nice. We'll be another like 35. Cool. Okay. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. Do you want to say hi? Come say hi.

Come say hi, come on. It's my work fit, so. long anticipated. This is your first arrival to the podcast. You have to in the microphone though. What's up guys? And come in the camera. Hey guys, do we have a name for our people? No, not yet. Do want to give them the name? I don't have anything right. It have been crazy if you did have a name right now. It just like became their name. Okay, thank you for stopping by. Yeah, yeah. That was Jordan. He'll come in for a full episode at some point. But we were getting into it. We were talking about how I was super proud of you for running and we.

When did I see you first, what mile? was mile 18. You're sure? Yeah, was right. I thought it was earlier. It was right after you cross, I think it's the Queen something bridge. Okay. Which is like the, one of the hardest parts of the New York City Marathon. And then when did we see you the second time? We saw you again. It was like right before the finish line, probably mile 24, 25. And you weren't expecting to see us that time. Like that one wasn't, you knew we were coming for mile.

Excuse me, mile 18, but you didn't know for the second one? Yeah, no, that was a total surprise. And when we saw Ryan the second time, he was like, my sign first of all said, Ryan Heaton finishes fast, which was a great sign. come on. Yes, fine. And the, oh yeah, so I distract myself with my amazing idea of that sign. But the second time, like you actually looked like you were about to die. Oh, was, yeah. Well, yeah.

Well, I know you were running a fucking marathon. Like, of course you were about to die. But the first time you were like prepared to see us, so you knew like to put on a game face and like smile and wave like that time you were like, we like saw you in the weeds of it. Yeah, no. And I was also like really hurting at that point, too. And I mean, I think my face kind of changed or my like mindset changed pretty quickly seeing everyone when it because it was like, my God, this sucks to like, wow. Like it was.

Josh Felgoise (25:16.302)
great to see them and it made me really happy to have people still supporting me, what, an hour later? No, that was the moment that I was referring to when I said I was super proud. was like, whoa, because you looked like a superhero running through, it must have been like 23 or 24. And I was like, I don't think I could ever run that long. But just the fact that you put your mind to something, made it happen. It was just a very cool, inspiring moment. Nice.

You're welcome. That's all you have to say to that. I just like. I appreciate that a lot. Okay. All right. No, I'm just kidding. But, okay, you brought up you getting injured quickly after the marathon. And I want to talk about that because that's the second thing you were you're not here for. But like the other topic that I to talk about because you tore your ACL. So share that story. Yeah. So I had joined a like rec soccer league.

Through Josh, actually. His roommate had invited me and I actually grew up playing soccer with a couple of his friends that were on the team. I was not on the league, by the way. I don't play soccer. It was like January 4th, so right after New Year's. It was our first game. I tore my ACL in the second half of the game. And how did you do it? I just went to make a cut and just heard a pop in my knee.

Fell down and was like that's not good. Did you know immediately that it was something worse than like? Yes, sprained ankle or something. Yeah, cuz I mean I sprained my MCL before I didn't know that yeah, you were there. Do I'm talking to tell that story? I mean we can yeah, you're here might as well so we were Has one night junior year of college and yeah, we were just like

partying and the floor was pretty slippery. No, we weren't. We weren't really partying. Like, let's tell the full story. All right. There were like six of us. Let's not make you sound cooler than it was. six of us playing beer pong. And I was walking to get the ball and I just slipped and my knee just twisted and I sprayed my MCL. Like it looked and I'm not I don't mean to be making light of a dark, a dark, dark situation, but it looked like you slept in a banana peel.

Josh Felgoise (27:41.152)
And like that's how it went down and everyone was like, I think I laughed because I didn't know it was like, no, whole, the whole room was laughing. Yeah. Cause it like, which like must've been made it much worse, but it wasn't like we knew something was that bad was going to happen. Like everybody falls drunk. Yeah. No, I mean, I, kind of knew it cause it hurt a lot when it happened. And so I like basically couldn't stand immediately after because it, it like it hurt and I injured my knee pretty badly. And then I think everyone's faces.

Quickly changed. Like very quickly we were like, fuck, something actually happened. But back to the ACL, soccer, torn ACL, January 4th, beginning of the new year, like kind of fresh off the marathon, fresh off like that high. Yeah, what were you feeling right after? Yeah, well, mean, so first off, I mean, I had to cancel like a bunch of trips, you know? Right.

We had a ski trip coming up that got canceled. I was also planning to run a half marathon in Vegas that got canceled. so initially I was just super bummed. Yeah. Because like I was like, like all this stuff I planned for was looking forward to gone. And then, you know, I had to deal with like scheduling doctor's appointments, getting a surgery. And that's just like not what you want to do. Insurance like. Yeah.

No, it was a really shitty time. Well, how long after the injury was the surgery? Uh, like a little over a week, I think. And I remember going to your apartment after the surgery and like, I didn't realize how bad it was until like, I was there with your girlfriend, Quinn, and like, had to like help you like get up from like the couch and like move you to the bed. And it was just like a very, it was very like, it was a wake up call of like how bad it was. But, um, I knew like the trips and like the...

All that stuff you had to cancel, like that fucking sucks. So how was your social life right after that? I mean, it was kind of non-existent. Like, I mean, obviously like, you know, friends would come and like hang out with me on like a random night or like come over for dinner. But like I couldn't go out, you know, and I think the first time I went out was like March, March? Like two months after? that sounds right. Yeah.

Josh Felgoise (30:07.054)
How was your relationship during the end the injury? like with Quinn? Yeah. Well, I mean that's your relationship. I mean, sorry You're actually did your girlfriend like hood girlfriend ship. don't know. All right. Okay But no really good. She was like so supportive of it and like, know She basically helped me kind of like live for like a week Yeah, couldn't get out of bed by myself. I couldn't lift my leg without help. She was so so good to you and

I mean, I live in a walk-up building, so I couldn't have lived here had something like that happened. You had an elevator, which was incredibly lucky. And I was like, you had an elevator and you had her. And without those two things, I don't know what you would have done. I would have gone home. And I mean, it would have sucked, the car ride home. But yeah, I probably would have gotten the surgery at home too. Right, that would make sense. But how did that either help your relationship or hurt your relationship?

I mean, there's definitely gratitude I have and like, you know, it's nice to know that like, she'll support me and help me out. And, you know, she's also like a lot better with like blood and like injuries and stuff than I am. Like, I kind of get queasy sometimes around. Even on your own self? no, but like with others and like, was like, yeah. And like, it was so gross in the beginning. Yeah. And like,

She was like basically like, wow, like they actually did a pretty good job with this scar. What does she do? She studies at Columbia right now. She's getting her master's in public health. So she's like getting kind of into that. really public health. she wanted to be a doctor. she? Yeah. okay. All Well, anyway, so go back to what we were saying. Yeah. And it was just like, I don't know, she was so supportive and like really helpful throughout everything that.

You know, like it definitely made it easier. cause it's a pretty isolating thing to not be able to socialize or like get out or kind of like do things by yourself. So it's really nice to know that like you have, you know, someone or people to kind of help you out. Yeah, no, absolutely. What, like, how are you feeling? You just kind of mentioned like the isolating and like depressing feeling, like how are you feeling mentally during that time?

Josh Felgoise (32:34.018)
yeah. So when it first happened, friends who had actually torn their ACL prior to me, like texted me they were like, Hey, if you need anything, let me know. Like I've been through it before. And I was like, you know, I've been hurt before. Like, you know, this seems like a little bit much. but it was honestly so appropriate and so just genuinely nice because they had been through that and they knew like,

It's so isolating because you, can't go out. And I don't want to inconvenience friends when like I can't walk from one bar to the next bar. No, but out, I don't even think like out you're referring to like going out to bars or anywhere else. Like you mean like restaurants or like apartments or like, yeah, you came here one time for like pizza, but like walking up into the stairs was like so difficult. I felt so bad. Yeah. And like I had to Uber everywhere, which is expensive. Yep.

Yeah, like it was just really tough because I also didn't want to like hold people back from like, you know, doing activities or doing events that they wanted to do. But yeah. How was working from home during that time? Honestly, not bad. Like my employer was super kind and like I got remote accommodations for like six months. Yeah, that's great. I went back beforehand just because like I liked my coworkers at the time. I liked the team I was on.

And I kind of wanted to see them day to day. Right. Also have like human connection. Yeah. And it got boring being in my apartment for so long. Like there's only so much to do in a small apartment. Right. And you know, just like a change of environment too. So that was really nice. Like I was itching to get out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. How are you feeling now? Yeah. I mean, I'm still kind of going through the recovery. Like I'm not fully recovered, but. And it's been how many months? It's been like nine. Yeah. Coming up on.

10. Yeah, a long time. Yeah, it's a really long time. Yeah, it's a really long time. And it's also like kind of tough to grasp because it's been so long. Right. Like I'm still not back to 100%. What what is not 100 % right now? Um, I would just say like having no limitations physically, like if I were to try to play sports right now, no chance. But like I can walk, you know, I can run, but sports now. Okay.

Josh Felgoise (35:00.142)
Without injury, were you interested in running a marathon again? Or was that like you like did it once one and done or was it something you were like, all right, like I did it once I would do it again. Yeah. Honestly, right after it, I was like, I'm never doing this again. But now having like been hurt and being like, can I get back to that? Like, yeah, you know, my hundred percent then was a lot higher than the benchmark I'm setting right now. So I think it's definitely possible. I would do like a more low key one, though, not, you know.

The New York City Marathon? Yeah, not like Boston, New York City, like one of the big ones. Would you at some point try and do it again? Yeah, I could definitely see it. Like I definitely think a half marathon is at the least. When do you want to try for that? Like when do you want to start training again for something like that? I mean, I'm going to start training like when I can. Yeah. But I would say like in the spring, you know, I think it'd be nice to like start off getting in shape for summer.

You've heard it here first folks, like Ryan's gonna run another marathon. You said half of like a full marathon. Yeah, stamp the date. well that's great. I'm like, I wanted to talk about that because I knew how isolating it was for you and like having to go or having to like cancel trips and cancel plans and like all that stuff like must've really sucked, especially at a time we, moved in August here and it was like not five months after that happened. just like was.

a very shitty thing that you had to go through and not to exploit that here, but to like talk about your, like how you overcame it and where you're at now. Yeah. I mean, it happens to people. So, and it will happen. Like more people will get hurt. And it's funny, like this, the other weekend, like a guy came up, saw my scar and was like, torn ACL. really? Yeah. We had like a nice little bonding moment. was at a tailgate. It's funny. Yeah.

No, but I'm happy to hear that you're I mean, I I know you're doing all betters, but I'm just saying it for the people I'm happy to hear you're you're feeling a lot better and I know you were like pretty down before and it's it's good to see you back in in regular form. Thanks. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah Anything else you want to add about like marathon or injury? yeah, I mean I would recommend that if you're slightly interested like take on the endeavor of

Josh Felgoise (37:20.728)
Would you start with a, you never did a half before, but would you start with a half, knowing what you now know? I did a half marathon as a part did say that earlier, yeah, you're right. Yeah, so like, would definitely. I don't mean for training, I'm saying for like, get across the actual finish line of a half marathon to get the confidence of a full. Yeah, I mean, it's up to you, like, you know, I think it's case by case. It's definitely a confidence booster, like, having, you know, being able to like complete a race, complete that goal.

But like, I will say, you can only train so much. You can't constantly be training for another marathon as a normal person. Yeah, can only do so many practice runs or any practice whatever. You have to do the real thing at some point. I just regurgitated what you just said in a much worse way. But yeah, I think that's good starting point. Okay, good. Let's get into the quick question section with Ryan Heaton where you will answer questions I have for you kind of quickly. Alright.

Okay, Ryan, how often do you wash your sheets? Honestly, I probably do it every other week. I try to do it once a week, every other week. Excuse me? Yeah, no, I don't like being in dirty sheets. Okay, I'm not saying that I like dirty sheets. I just am not as good about it as you are apparently. Yeah, well, mean, it helps. Like in my building.

you I do laundry in the basement. So there's multiple washing machines. Right. Like you have one. But it's literally in-unit. Like it should be easier for me to do it. Yeah, but when I'm doing, you know, one load for clothes, I just bring down the sheets and do a second for wash and dry. I think two every two-ish weeks is a very good rule for that. I mean, dude, if you're having like other people over, like you got to wash them. Every time.

Pretty much every time, like after you have or before, depending on the last time. think that's gross. I think every time. It has to be every time. It has to be every time. How often do you wash your work shirts? Yeah, so this actually I've been thinking a lot about recently. I would say, like it honestly just depends on like how much I sweat in it or if I get like a stain on it, but like every like one to three wears. Okay.

Josh Felgoise (39:41.272)
Pants, probably every like three wears. Thanks for asking the next question. You're welcome. Okay, so pants one to three wears. What shaving cream do you use? I have no idea. Pro like Gillette. Razor? Yeah, I use the Gillette Razor, like the Fusion Pro Glide, whatever. Okay, do you have a skincare routine? Yeah, I wash my face when I wake up. Do know what products you use? Yeah, I either use Cetaphil or like CeraVe.

Okay. For my like, you know, face wash. Yeah. I think I use the sensitive face one. Okay. And then, and then I have like a daily moisturizer. Okay. and then what's your go-to drink at a bar? yeah, it depends how I'm feeling that night. If I'm tired, it's a vodka Red Bull. If I'm, you know, feeling like I want something more refreshing, I'll probably get like a vodka soda. Sometimes I'll ask for a lime. Whoa.

Or like an orange. might ask for an orange. That's nuts. That's out of control. They don't have oranges at bars. do. Do they? But one time they gave me grapefruit. It's like, I was like, can I get a vodka soda with an orange? Yes. Got a grapefruit in it. Changed the night. You to leave the bar. Yeah. no, it was fine. But just not what I was expecting. No, that's that's a surprise. I rather have a lime or a lemon. Take us through a date night with your girlfriend. Yeah, I mean, they vary a lot, but.

I'd say like most we're just getting dinner. And like we try to, like I like to do things that like are exploring. So like, you know, we one time, like this is one of the dates I really liked. went to like Little Italy and just went like cannoli touring. You're actually the guy who gave me the cookie tour ideas, isn't that right? Yeah, I like food tours a lot.

Because you said you did a cannoli tour and I don't like cannolis but I was like what can we change that to and it was cookie tour. I will say the cannoli tour died after two spots because you both ended up on the toilet. No, you know, like you can only have so many cannolis before you're like, okay, that's a lot. That's a lot of cannolis. But you split one at each place. Yeah, no, we had two and then like a third like the Napoleon cake. No, no, no idea. They're pretty good. Okay. And then what is your ideal night with your friends?

Josh Felgoise (42:04.186)
honestly, I just like going to a bar, sitting down, talking. Sitting down and talking? Yeah. Like you just enjoy a beer and just like... like you're saying at a bar. You don't mean like... Yeah, like at a bar. Okay. and then what's your favorite beer? I got through a lot of changes, but... What's it right now? probably like, I like Stella Artois. I also love Stella.

I have one. What is it? Like, what do you like cook? That's what she's gonna say. Wow. She says it. What do you cook for dinner? yeah, I leave that little part in. Yeah. I, I actually really like to cook. I don't like to clean, but I like to cook. I don't cook as much as I should. I order a lot of Uber eats. But if you had to cook. Yeah, no. but I do have some like core essentials that I like to get in. So I like to do this like

rice, chicken, avocado, and sometimes a cooked spinach with the soyaki sauce. Yum, yum. Chicken Caesar salad. I'll do an easy meat sauce, which is just ground beef or ground turkey, marinara sauce, pasta. Sounds great. What kind of pasta? A lot of penne, but I'll switch it up every now and then to different ones just to keep it fun.

And buying the beef or the turkey, the ground turkey or the ground beef? I've been buying a lot more ground turkey recently just because it's better for you. It is better for you, But like I will get ground beef just because I do like beef instead of turkey at times. Do you have breakfast before work? Yeah, actually this is something my girlfriend doesn't like that I do, but I normally just eat like a Quest bar. Okay. Why does she not like that? Well, because it's not like a...

really balanced. It's not like a meal. No, it's like not that healthy. It's a 200 calorie protein bar. Great protein bars if they want to sponsor. Or Stella or Tua. I can't even pronounce it. They can't sponsor. Okay. And then what is your, are you back into a gym routine? Like it's tough because I got a PT still. that's, I mean, that's just basically like leg day. Okay. But like gym routine, I try to go two to three times a week.

Josh Felgoise (44:23.91)
not PT related. Yeah. Definitely don't hit that. But like I try my very best to at least go once a week just because like I feel so good. Like you just feel good after going to the gym. Yeah do. You feel great mentally, physically. you sleep. Like that was one of my favorite things about the marathon. I slept so well. I'm sure. my god. And I could eat anything I wanted to on Sundays. Which is amazing. Because you know I was burning like a couple thousand calories. What did your cheat day look like?

A lot of Van Leeuwen. Ice cream, but it doesn't matter. Burgers, Van Leeuwen, pizza, like. So good. Oh yeah. It's, it's an ice cream place in New York. Um, okay. And then when I had one more shoot, uh, you said we were just talking about gym. were just talking about something else. Food, cooking, fashion. Oh, you want to talk about fashion? No, I'm not. really know about fashion. I don't think that's the topic for this one. Um, how is your living situation?

It's good. I have a roommate. We live in a like a flex wall apartment Which is a temporary wall And like are you happy with it? Did you renew? Yeah. Yeah, we renewed I'm happy it's one of my best friends from like growing up and I've like known him forever and so it's like not that much of an adjustment to be honest Is there anything that annoys you about each other or like like you can point out that he gets on about by you and same for you to him?

Honestly, I just think it's like generally keeping the apartment clean. Like, yeah, I think that's the biggest thing for most roommates. Yeah. And like, we're both like decently good at it. Honestly, we could definitely be way better. I don't think my girlfriend or, you know, other people would say we're good at it. Right. yeah, I would say it's that like there will be times where like he keeps it really clean times where I keep it really clean times where neither of us keeps it clean. so yeah.

That's definitely probably the biggest roommate grievance I've heard from everybody. Okay, that is the end of the Fast Questions section. that is the episode. Anything else you want to add about anything in general? No. Okay, thank you for coming on. Thanks. This was great. I think for anybody that wants to like, I don't think it has to be like a marathon, but anybody that wants to like commit to something, I think it's cool to know that you.

Josh Felgoise (46:48.27)
literally had no idea that you wanted to do that. And we're like, you know what? I'm going to give it a shot and just like went for it. And that's pretty cool. Yeah. Like start where you're comfortable. Like, if it's a 5k, it's a, if it's, if it's a one mile race, it's a one mile race. Like, you know, they're fun to do. They're so like the running community. What I've learned is so like encouraging and supportive and so much just positive energy and like people love to go out and just cheer you on and like motivate you. And it's just such like a nice experience. So did you make any friends from it?

honestly, I got really close with a couple of my coworkers because of it. Yeah. Like they were doing it and the one had previously run one. And so it was just like a nice conversation topic to have. Like I wasn't the guy who was like, Hey, I'm running the New York city marathon this year. Like, but you know, it would come up and people would be like, like, you why are you heading home so early? And I'd be like, well, I have to run like, you know, 15 miles.

And then it came up naturally. wasn't like an annoying. Yeah, yeah. And they were like, like, how was your weekend? I got a nice mile. I got a nice like 20 mile run in. Like it was great. wait, I just had something to say, shoot about the about that. the last episode was just about how to make friends in New City. I that's another it's like a great one. I talked about walking like clubs, but I think running is another great one. Yeah. I like there are a ton of running clubs and like

specifically for the marathon, they'll have like training runs for you where I forget the, I think it's New York Roadrunners, but they'll post and they'll be like, hey, we're doing like a 15 mile run in Central Park this Sunday at 7 a.m. And like, I always would see those groups running when I was running. I liked running alone, but yeah, like if you want to meet friends and you know, runners are always just like positive people. They're just out there to run like.

I feel like you have to kind of have a positive mentality and outlook to be a runner in the first place. Yeah. Like never be the person like demeaning others while like they're just trying to accomplish a goal or to like better themselves. That's just like, that's another good takeaway from this episode. Now that's another good takeaway from this episode is that like, and I'm one of those people that I was like, I didn't think you could do it or like we're actually serious about it, but like, I don't know, be supportive. Cause like you, I mean, well, maybe not because it was help. was a motivator to you to not be supportive.

Josh Felgoise (49:13.624)
But I think it's a good thing to be supportive. mean, yeah, like, and you know, if it's a crazy risk that someone's taking, like, I'm gonna put all my money into this thing and risk it all. you know, maybe like you have some checks and balances there, like, let them know that's not a good idea. But if they're just trying to like accomplish something, like, tell them to go for it. Encourage them, be supportive. And if they don't, like...

I was supportive after that. we clarify? No, yeah. All of our friends were so supportive of it. And we have great friends because so many... I had to raise money for charity and I was worried about that. But then I sent it to my friends, sent it to my parents. They sent it to their friends. And just the amount of support, unexpected support that came, it was just so overwhelming. And so that was just also a nice thing to know that you have. It's just a great support group.

support system and community behind you. And like that was a huge takeaway because like, you know, in a marathon, like that's a high, like I great support group when things were well. And then, you know, I tore my ACL and like that was a low and I still had that great support group. like I'd say that was like something really reaffirming in like life, I guess. Yeah, that was a really nice little like conclusion to the end of the episode. Yeah, I mean, that was just like.

Maybe it's a humble brag. Like a little like it didn't come off that way. And then when you said it I was like actually like kind of I think that's I think that's the episode. Anything else any other questions you have for me. No not really. You'll get my feedback. Yeah Ryan Ryan Ryan is always one of the first people to let me know in an episode when I say like too much or what else do I do. That's kind of off.

This is, I'm giving you the time to just like. No, I'll send him like funny quotes. Yeah, or I'll say something that's just like he's really stupid and I forgot about or something like that. Yeah, like I'd say it's mainly just funny quotes or like things he says and I'm like, really? No, but it's good because I should, I need like a check or, it's actually nice to know that you listen to it as well. It's also tough, like you're saying things like live. Like you have really no opportunity. Now that you're kind of in the, in it, like you're literally in it.

Josh Felgoise (51:32.28)
What do you think? mean, I'm, know I'm going to listen to this tomorrow and cringe. Do you think? like listen when it comes out. Just cringe. yeah. Cool. it. We're doing, doing this Monday night right now and it's coming out tomorrow. Yeah. I I'm going to cringe at things I say, but do you know like it happened? Like this is one of those things where you take risks and like, right. But it is kind of cool. It's a cool, like we're having this conversation like friend to friend and then like tomorrow.

The world can hear it. The world's not gonna hear it, obviously, but the world could hear it. I think it's gonna go viral. I don't think so. Could have millions. But it could. Yeah. You never know. You never know. But I won't. But in the moment, I'm not thinking that people are gonna be hearing this. That's not going through my head like the next sentence I say is gonna be quoted. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I totally agree. And ignore the noise, the negative feedback you get.

like not constructive feedback. Yeah. Just like, you know, people kind of trashing you and belittling you. Are people trashing and belittling me? I mean, probably not, but like it could be. But just in general, when you do things. Right. No, no, that's will always be people who, you know, talk poorly about it. I will say in the beginning, like I think a lot of people were like, like, that's really cool. But like, he's not actually that happened. Yeah. Like not going to actually keep going through it. I mean, I'm kind of shocked it's gotten this far. No, like you were definitely one of those people. Yeah. I was confident in you, but

You know, there's like, this is like a lot of episodes at this point. Yeah. Like what percent of podcasters make it this far? Not a lot. Yeah. The ones you hear about are the ones that have made it this far, but like, there's a good amount that, I mean, most people haven't heard of this one, like, so I mean, I'm sure there's a of people like chugging at it, but it's like, similar to your mindset. Like if I have a goal and I have like a benchmark that I want to meet and I want to actually make something happen, like you have to go for it. Yeah.

And I mean, it does help putting yourself out there. Like I had to raise money for charity. So like people knew I was doing it and like, that's true. And now people know I'm doing this. It's like, no, it's a very, that's another good middle ground there. though like a marathon is just like way better than a podcast. I mean, no, like we're not gonna, it's just better. apples and oranges. Like it's just cooler. you ran a marathon. Like, all right, well that's the episode. Thank you guys so much for listening.

Josh Felgoise (53:49.922)
I do the outro now. Is that cool if I do it right here? Yeah, do want me to leave? No, no, you can be here for it. Thanks so much for listening. This is Guy Set. I change it every time now. It's an absolute mess because I'm embarrassed that you're here and I'm doing this right now. It's a really long outro. No, I don't mean, I'm going to probably cut that part. This was Guy Set. can find the podcast, wherever you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Apple podcasts, or anything else. That's where everybody listens anyway. You can find the podcast on at

The guy set th e GUI set on Instagram and tik tok. You can email me any questions at Josh j o s h at guyset.com j o s h at GUI set.com and please send your questions. I'll make an episode about them because that's what I've been doing. Thanks. Thank you so much for getting for listening and I will see you guys next Tuesday. See you guys. All right. Thanks for being on. Yeah, no problem. That's fun, right? Yeah. What did you think? Honestly.

Okay, good. think it was a really good conversation.