#74 - Date Night
Oct 29, 2024
One of the biggest constants and things in common for guys in their 20s and 30s is we are all planning dates. Figuring out what to do or where to go on a date just adds to the anxiety and stress of dating so in this episode I share a guide for what to do on the first through the 5th date, tell you about the dates I've gone on, and give advice, recommendations, and notes for each date along the way.
The Complete Guide to Date Nights: From First Date Nerves to Relationship Planning
Originally featured on the Guyset podcast - your guide to what should be talked about
Why Dating Advice Matters for Every Guy
Whether you're swiping on dating apps, planning your first date in months, or trying to keep the spark alive in a relationship, date planning is one of the most constant challenges we face in our twenties and beyond.
The reality: Everyone is either currently going on dates, wanting to go on dates, or planning date nights with their significant other. This makes dating advice universally relevant - whether you're single, in a situationship, or in a committed relationship.
A New Perspective: Dating Advice from Someone in a Relationship
After over a year of sharing single dating experiences, here's a fresh perspective from someone who's been in a relationship for about a month and a half. The pressure of date night doesn't disappear when you become official - it just changes form.
Gone are the worries about:
Will she text me back?
Should I go for the kiss?
When do I send the follow-up text?
But the challenge of planning meaningful dates and maintaining good communication remains just as important.
The First Date Foundation
The Golden Rule: Comfort Equals Confidence
The best first date location is wherever YOU feel most comfortable and confident. This isn't about impressing someone with fancy venues - it's about creating the right setting for authentic conversation.
Top first date recommendations:
Drinks/Wine: Easy 2-glass timeframe, casual setting, not crazy expensive
Ice cream or coffee: Perfect for non-drinkers
Appetizers and drinks: More casual than full dinner, easier decision-making
Why I Avoid Dinner on First Dates
Full dinner dates create unnecessary complications:
You don't know their food preferences yet
Questions about splitting appetizers and paying become awkward
It's a bigger time and financial commitment before you know if there's chemistry
Remember: The activity is just a backdrop for conversation. The goal is getting to know each other, not creating Instagram-worthy moments.
A Real First Date Story
I planned to take someone for margaritas and guacamole after learning she loved Mexican food. The restaurant was closed when we arrived. We ended up at a Spanish tapas place getting croquettes and sangria - completely not my ideal first date setting.
The result: It became a funny shared story we still reference. Sometimes the "failed" dates make the best memories because they test how well you both handle unexpected situations.
Managing First Date Nerves
Here's the truth: You're going to be nervous on every first date, and that's completely normal.
Think of dating like going to the gym. When you start lifting weights, everything feels incredibly heavy. You look around wondering how everyone else makes it look so easy. With more reps, the weights are still heavy, but you get stronger and more capable of handling them.
Dating works the same way. You'll still feel nerves, but with more experience, you know what to expect and how to handle those feelings.
The Kiss Question: Trust Your Gut
The biggest question guys have: Should I go for the kiss at the end of the date?
My advice: You have to trust your gut and read the vibe. If you're feeling it's right, it probably is. If you have lots of doubt and anxiety about it, it's probably not the right moment.
Important reminder: Not every date needs to end with a fairytale sidewalk kiss. It's okay to take it slow and let things progress naturally.
Second Date Strategy
Listen and Build
The best way to plan a second date is to listen to what they mentioned during your first conversation. If you blanked out due to nerves (totally normal), you can casually ask about preferences over text:
"What's your favorite type of wine?"
"Do you prefer Italian or Mexican food?"
"What kind of places do you like to hang out?"
Then be decisive. Pick something and stick with it. Don't overthink it.
Example: Building on First Date Conversation
After discussing that we both loved white wine on our first date, the second date was at a wine bar during happy hour. Simple, based on shared interest, and budget-friendly.
The Third Date Turning Point
Why the third date matters: This is often when you start deciding whether you want to continue seeing this person seriously.
You don't need to rush this decision, but it's generally around dates 3-4 when things start feeling more serious or you realize it's not going anywhere.
Setting Considerations
By now you know them better, so you can:
Plan based on things you've learned about their interests
Consider dinner if you're ready for that level of commitment (time and cost)
Stick with the same format (drinks/appetizers) if that's working
The key: You're probably more comfortable now, so choose settings that reflect that growing comfort level.
The Fourth and Fifth Date Evolution
Time for Real Conversations
This is when you should consider having mature conversations about where things are heading. Not necessarily "what are we?" but more like:
"I'm really enjoying spending time with you. How are you feeling about everything?"
This conversation is awkward and difficult, but it's an important stepping stone in any developing relationship.
Great Date Ideas for This Stage
Dinner and a movie: You're comfortable sitting in silence together now
Cooking at home: Either you cook for them, they cook for you, or you order takeout and watch TV. This is the "next level unlocked" - showing them the real you in your natural environment.
Concerts or shows: These work better when you really know the person and are comfortable spending extended time together
The At-Home Date Milestone
Bringing someone to your apartment represents showing them the real you:
Your actual living situation (roommates and all)
How you operate in your natural environment
Your authentic self without the "date performance"
This vulnerability is important because healthy relationships require both people to be entirely themselves.
Advanced Date Planning: Months 2+
Collaborative Planning
At this point, you can start brainstorming dates together:
"What restaurant have you been wanting to try?"
"What movie do you want to see?"
"I'd love for you to plan something - I'm excited to go along"
This takes pressure off you to always be the planner and makes dating feel more like a team effort.
Real Examples from My Relationship
Movie date: We saw "We Live in Time" (fair warning: incredibly sad - not recommended unless you're comfortable crying in front of your partner)
Concert: Maggie Rogers at Madison Square Garden - one of our favorite dates so far
Comedy show: Great for couples who enjoy laughing together
Chinese takeout and TV: Sometimes the simple dates are the most meaningful
The Dating Mindset Shift
From "Have To" to "Get To"
Instead of thinking: "I have to plan something for this weekend"
Try thinking: "I get to plan something fun for this weekend"
This reframe changes everything. Dating becomes something you're excited about rather than another item on your to-do list.
Managing Expectations
Don't put enormous pressure on yourself to create perfect, life-changing memories with every date. The goal is to:
Get to know someone better
See if you enjoy spending time together
Be completely yourself
Have fun and create natural connections
The Excitement Factor
How cool is it that we get to be nervous and excited about meeting new people? In your twenties, you're in a unique position to experience the thrill of potentially meeting someone who could become a significant part of your life.
Universal Dating Principles
Be Completely Yourself
This cannot be overstated: Never dull your personality or put on a front because you think that's what the other person wants.
Look for someone who:
Brings out the best in you because you're fully yourself with them
Shows you that they're being authentic too
Makes you feel comfortable being genuine
Go with the Flow
The best dates happen when:
You set hopeful, excited intentions going in
You roll with unexpected changes (like restaurant closures)
You focus on enjoying the person's company rather than executing perfect plans
Communication is Everything
Whether it's your first date or your fiftieth, clear communication makes everything easier:
Be honest about your comfort level
Share what you're looking for
Ask questions about their preferences and interests
Don't be afraid to have those awkward but necessary conversations
The Financial Reality
Dating costs money, and that's okay to acknowledge and plan for:
Budget-friendly options:
Happy hour wine/drinks
Coffee or ice cream dates
Cooking at home
Free events like museum days or outdoor concerts
When to invest more:
When you're genuinely excited about the person
For special occasions or milestone dates
When you want to try something you'll both enjoy
Remember: Expensive doesn't equal better. Some of the best dates are simple and low-key.
Red Flags and Green Flags
Green Flags to Look For
They handle unexpected situations well (like venue changes)
Conversation flows naturally with comfortable silences
They seem genuinely interested in getting to know you
They're being authentic rather than performing
You feel like yourself around them
Red Flags to Notice
Everything feels like hard work
They're constantly on their phone
You feel like you need to be someone else to impress them
They're rude to service staff
The conversation feels forced or one-sided
For Different Relationship Goals
If You're Looking for Something Serious
Be honest about your intentions early on
Look for compatibility in values and life goals
Pay attention to how they treat others
Consider whether you can see a future together
If You're Dating Casually
Be upfront about what you're looking for
Don't lead anyone on who wants something more serious
Keep things light and fun
Respect boundaries and expectations
The Long Game Perspective
Dating is a never-ending cycle - whether it's with the same person or different people throughout your life. The skills you develop now will serve you forever:
Planning thoughtful dates
Reading social situations and vibes
Communicating your feelings honestly
Being authentically yourself
Handling rejection and disappointment gracefully
Building Dating Confidence
Like any skill, dating gets easier with practice. Each experience teaches you:
What you're looking for in a partner
How to communicate more effectively
What date activities you enjoy most
How to handle nerves and anxiety
What your own relationship needs are
Taking Action: Your Next Date
If you have a date coming up:
Choose a location where YOU feel confident and comfortable
Listen actively during conversation for clues about future date planning
Be genuinely yourself rather than trying to impress
Set excited, hopeful intentions rather than anxious expectations
Trust your gut about physical intimacy and relationship progression
If you're in a relationship:
Take turns planning dates to share the creative burden
Try new activities that you can experience together
Have those awkward but important conversations about where things are heading
Show your authentic self in comfortable environments
Remember that date night is something you GET to do together
The Bottom Line
Great dates aren't about perfect execution or expensive venues. They're about creating opportunities for genuine connection with someone you're excited to get to know better.
The best dates happen when you:
Feel comfortable and confident in your setting
Are completely authentic and encourage the same in your date
Focus on enjoying each other's company rather than meeting expectations
Handle unexpected situations with humor and flexibility
Communicate openly about your feelings and intentions
Whether you're planning your first date in months or your fiftieth date with the same person, remember that dating is fundamentally about human connection. Keep it simple, be yourself, and enjoy the process of getting to know someone new or rediscovering someone you care about.
The anxiety and excitement you feel? That's not a bug in the system - it's proof that you're putting yourself out there and creating opportunities for meaningful connections. And that's pretty amazing.
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